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I need help with the Train composition editor.
« dnia: 18 Stycznia 2021, 04:18:14 »
Hello dear Community,
my Englisch is not the best, so i try my best (If I get stuck, i used Google-Translator)  :-\

So... me and my Freind play the Game sice a few Day´s and we're getting along pretty well. But we've seen it a couple of times that Player can drive there Trains in double. I meen for example the EN57 or the EN71 trains. Or Sometimes we've saw a train with two lokomotives, for example the EP07.
e.g.:
EN57+EN57 OR EN71 + EN71
OR
EP07+EP07+Waggons OR SM42+Waggons+EU07

We tried to create such a train for ourselves but in the Train Editor that not work.  :'(

So my question is:
How can i make a Train with two lokomotives?

That you for your Help :D ;)

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Odp: I need help with the Train composition editor.
« Odpowiedź #1 dnia: 18 Stycznia 2021, 07:36:12 »
Hello SimuGames03,


The trains configuration files is saved in folder "Presets" in you Document Libery. The double multiple units is not allowed because they are not safe in simulator. The pressure is not regulated and brakes is not working good. If you saw double units that's mean that is a supporter with special double train. Locomotives can join in pairs and you must make it in file ".con" in folder "Presets"


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« Odpowiedź #2 dnia: 18 Stycznia 2021, 07:38:05 »
At first I have to make something clear - we DO NOT support multiplication of locos in literal sense of this word. It's just isn't programmed yet. But there's some exceptions and substitutions - for EMU's (EN57 in that case) we have 3 variants of these vehicles as a double version. These are called in the menu "2EN57" (in malature of: Koleje Mazowieckie, PR old paint (dark red-black-white), PR new paint (orange-grey)).
Unfortunately that's all what is officially supported. But you can also (unofficially) make a set with double loco by text editor in set file.
You have to go to C:\Users\USER\Documents\OnRailTeam\TrainDriver2\Presets, find your set and put a second loco by hand. You have to remamber that this way isn't really supported. Even game statute says that dispatcher may refuse to give you timetable if your set does not comply with the rules (2.7.1 of simulator rules), especially when you create a set with 10 locos. You have to know that sets like this can have big issues with breaking, because they aren't supported. With two locos you shouldn't have that kind of troubles, but keep in mind that dispatcher can say no.
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« Odpowiedź #3 dnia: 18 Stycznia 2021, 10:55:17 »
What are exactly the problems with brakes? Do they just not brake the locomotives or is there some worse problem, e.g. the brakes may get stuck or something like that?
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« Odpowiedź #4 dnia: 18 Stycznia 2021, 10:57:09 »
Also, ET41 is essentially EU07+EU07, perfect for heavier freight drafts, available in "classic" green or PKP Cargo blue paint schemes.

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« Odpowiedź #5 dnia: 18 Stycznia 2021, 11:56:00 »
What are exactly the problems with brakes? Do they just not brake the locomotives or is there some worse problem, e.g. the brakes may get stuck or something like that?
Because of the fact that we don't have multiplication physic model, there is no right connection between two locos. In reality there's break connection, electric connection and multiplication connection, wich all connected allows to create kind of "one" loco out of several.
In Td2 we don't have that yet. That creates some issues - second loco is treated as a blank carrige without the physics and breaking. It's not a big deal when you have just two locos with EIE let's say - the set breaks properly, just like when there is just one loco. But try to set 10 EU07, and you'll see that it's undriveable.
For comparison, 2EN57 units (permanently connected in our simulator to give players some fully legal options) have all the features I mentioned earlier. However, these are permanently connected units as part of a compromise.
« Ostatnia zmiana: 18 Stycznia 2021, 11:59:31 wysłana przez trainfun09 »
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« Odpowiedź #6 dnia: 19 Stycznia 2021, 09:35:44 »
So, the coupled locomotives don't have any brakes but still have their mass, right?
Thanks.

P.s.: now that I think about it, this is what happens when sending locos for demolition. In real life, they put many carriages in the consist just to brake it.
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