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Locomotive driving
« dnia: 23 Października 2020, 14:46:12 »
Hi everyone, I'm new to the forum and TD2 user.
I'm trying to familiarize myself with the various single player machines.
I don't know if it's up to me, maybe something wrong, but no machine, including the ones in the tutorial, I can't get them to move. The only thing I can do is move the shunt. Only
in the Towarowy ładowny z Parzęczewa Towarowego do Arkadii scenario I can normally get the train moving.
A heartfelt thanks for the help you will want to give me.

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« Odpowiedź #1 dnia: 23 Października 2020, 15:47:30 »
Hello Settebello,

1. Before driving you have to move the reverser forward.

2. You have to wait a few seconds on the first possition to start Driving.

3. The second picture is a kind of "booster"
    If you are in position "S" or "R" you can use it to "boost" the motor:
    (I don't know exactly what it's called in real life)

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« Odpowiedź #2 dnia: 23 Października 2020, 16:15:02 »
Thank you for answering me.
What you call a booster, we call it a potentiometer, however I understood what it was for, I only mentioned it to say that I could move it.
I had guessed that the movement was linked to the position of the inverter. But I don't know how it moves, I tried with the mouse, with simple keys and in combinations, but I didn't succeed.

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« Odpowiedź #3 dnia: 23 Października 2020, 16:51:56 »
If you try to Start Cold you can look at this Video:
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« Odpowiedź #4 dnia: 23 Października 2020, 17:32:47 »
Thank you for your suggestion.
But the machines are already on.
I tried all sorts of ways, I can't move the inverter.  :o
Is it possible that there is only one scenario that the car is on and the inverter is already set forward?

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« Odpowiedź #5 dnia: 23 Października 2020, 17:55:45 »
in which scenario does it not work?

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« Odpowiedź #6 dnia: 23 Października 2020, 18:01:20 »
in all, only the scenario The transport loaded from  Towarowy ładowny z Parzęczewa Towarowego do Arkadii works.

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« Odpowiedź #7 dnia: 23 Października 2020, 18:11:09 »
I have try it on "(3) Towarowy próżny z Parzęczewa Grupa Towarowa do Arkadii"

You have to set the Main Switch to forword.
For this the Power Controll must on 0 (like the Picture)

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« Odpowiedź #8 dnia: 23 Października 2020, 18:13:42 »
The problem is precisely this, while for the scenario that works I can move the power lever, in all the others not.

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« Odpowiedź #9 dnia: 23 Października 2020, 18:16:18 »
you have the power on 0?
Did you click the HUD? maybe you was in the Chat?

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« Odpowiedź #10 dnia: 23 Października 2020, 18:21:00 »
No no, I was not in the chat, hi also braked, unrestrained, enabled any switches. but nothing, the power and the inverter can't move them.
For all scenarios, the power is set to maximum.

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« Odpowiedź #11 dnia: 23 Października 2020, 18:55:17 »
Hi,

I can change the reverser just fine using Page Up/Page Down in all scenarios that do work (both the test scenes as well as scene 3. Some of the other scenarios do not load for me). I did not touch any other controls. You should not use the GUI to set the power or brake levers, because it may happen that it looks like a given lever is in position 0, but in reality it is not. I would suggest to always use the keyboard.

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« Odpowiedź #12 dnia: 23 Października 2020, 19:03:01 »
Hi, since your name is Settebello I assume that you might be Italian or, at least, know a thing or two about Italian trains.
The lever with positions 0 to 6 is NOT like the potentiometer installed on locos like E444 / E444R or E656 / E656N, rather it's the field shunt that you use to increase the speed when you already have all resistors excluded.

EU07* and ET41 have manual controls, like the E646 - but with more complex circuits, so there are a few differences in the behaviour and it's not as straightforward as on a E626.

After the loco is turned on (you definitely hear it), in order to move the train you need reverser in forward position, field shunt to zero, loco brake to zero, continuous brake to normal (the 3rd position, which makes the pressure in the main pipe go to 0.5 MPa or 5 bar); then throttle in 1st position, wait until you have current in the motors, then you can increase the throttle as you like.
After you're over all the series position, you hear the resistor fans turn off; you are now able to increase the field shunt from 0 to 6, gradually; eventually you can set the field back to 0, give another notch on the power wheel and you are now in parallel. Increase the throttle until you're at end parallel, again the resistor fans switch off and you can again use the field shunt from 0 to 6.

Failure in releasing the brakes on the whole train will not stop you from departing, since the brake pressure relay only looks at the pressure in the brake cylinders of your loco.
Forgetting to depart with the field shunt set to 0 will not stop you at first, but will cause problems later on (now I don't remember what happens, to be honest).
Not spending enough time in position 1 on the throttle won't allow you to give current to the motors.

I hope this will help, anyway we're here  :)

* p.s. all the similar locos are included, so EU06, EU07, EP07, EP08.
« Ostatnia zmiana: 23 Października 2020, 19:05:01 wysłana przez Angelo »
Sorry, the only Polish words I understand are "witam" and "kolej" :)
I'm learning some Polish train-related words. Please be patient if sometimes I ask to speak in English.

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« Odpowiedź #13 dnia: 23 Października 2020, 19:20:12 »
Thanks for all the suggestions. But I need to do some clarity on my part, to avoid being misunderstood.
Scenario number 1 Towarowy ładowny z Parzęczewa Towarowego do Arkadii works regularly for me, I can use both the mouse and the keyboard that works, in fact by pressing Page Down - Page Up, I move the inverter, while in all the other scenarios, just started, the power lever is at maximum and the inverter in neutral position. There is no way for me to move this lever, neither with the keyboard, nor with the mouse. It is this is very strange.

Yes, I'm Italian, well actually my explanation regarding the potentiometer was very simplistic, but it was right to find a meeting point  :) :)

Hi, since your name is Settebello I assume that you might be Italian or, at least, know a thing or two about Italian trains.
The lever with positions 0 to 6 is NOT like the potentiometer installed on locos like E444 / E444R or E656 / E656N, rather it's the field shunt that you use to increase the speed when you already have all resistors excluded.
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« Odpowiedź #14 dnia: 23 Października 2020, 19:36:26 »
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